TL;DR: What SEO Leaders Can Learn from Eli Schwartz
In our podcast with Eli Schwartz, we explored what separates tactical SEO work from true strategic impact.
Eli advocates for product-led SEO, full-time hires over outsourcing, and prioritizing tasks using the RICE framework (Reach, Impact, Confidence, Effort).
The takeaway?
Great SEOs communicate in business terms, tie efforts to revenue, and think beyond rankings. If you’re still just fixing 404s, you’re missing the bigger opportunity: building SEO as a business growth channel, not just a deliverable.
What Can SEO Leaders Learn from Eli Schwartz on Building a Future-Proof SEO Strategy?
In one of our favorite episodes of Diary of an SEO, we sat down with SEO Growth Advisor, Consultant, and Strategist Eli Schwartz to discuss the future of SEO, and how teams and agencies can stay ahead of the curve.
Eli is best known for his product-led SEO approach, helping companies understand where SEO can realistically move the needle, and avoiding the common trap of chasing rankings that don’t lead to revenue.
Here are the key takeaways from that conversation, plus what they mean for agency-side SEOs and in-house hiring decisions.
Who Is Eli Schwartz, and What Is Product-Led SEO?
Eli Schwartz helps companies determine if SEO is a viable growth channel, before they invest heavily in content or technical fixes. If it is, he works alongside product, marketing, and leadership to build sustainable SEO strategies that align with real user demand.
Eli refers to this approach as product-led SEO, where SEO is not just a traffic channel, but a product experience. If people aren’t searching for what you sell, SEO won’t solve that.
“You create all this content and theoretical rankings, but no one googles those terms when they’re ready to buy, so they don’t find anything, and they don’t convert.”
Should Companies Hire Full-Time SEOs Instead of Agencies?
One of Eli’s strongest stances: companies serious about SEO need full-time, in-house SEOs, not agencies or freelancers.
“I think of SEO as part and parcel of a company’s product. It’s not something you can outsource.”
Here’s why:
Full-time SEOs sit in meetings with product, design, and leadership
They hear directly from the C-suite
They align with the buyer’s journey, not just traffic metrics
They help build the SEO channel from scratch, not just “fill it”
Agencies often deliver on defined tasks, but they’re rarely positioned to build SEO into the DNA of a company’s growth strategy.
Why Do So Many SEO Projects Stall Before They Launch?
Eli ran a poll with 100+ SEO professionals. The result?
Only 50% of their SEO projects ever made it live.
The problem isn’t effort, it’s communication and prioritization.
CEOs don’t care about “fixing 404s.” They care about unlocking revenue.
“If you can’t articulate the goal, then you’re not really doing anything.”
What Is the RICE Method, and Why Should SEOs Use It?
Eli advocates for the RICE method, a strategic framework for prioritizing SEO initiatives:
Reach: How many people will this impact?
Impact: How meaningful is that impact?
Confidence: How sure are we of the results?
Effort: How much work will this take?
Rather than jumping to fix every SEO issue on sight, Eli suggests stepping back:
“If I fix this 404 now, I may lose my internal capital to push for a CMS upgrade later, which brings more ROI.”
This method helps SEOs earn trust internally and demonstrate strategic maturity, not just technical know-how.
How Can SEOs Communicate Better with Executives?
This is one of Eli’s core points: SEOs struggle to communicate beyond SEO.
To stand out, you need to:
Speak in terms of revenue, outcomes, and user behavior
Align fixes with business goals, not just Google’s guidelines
Learn to “sell” ideas internally, with clarity and confidence
Want to lead SEO strategy? You need to stop reporting like an SEO and start presenting like a strategist.
How Can Agency SEOs Successfully Transition In-House?
Thinking of moving from agency to in-house? Eli outlines what hiring managers actually want to see:
You spotted a problem
You communicated it clearly
You owned the solution and executed it
That’s rare in agency settings, where you often lack authority, and why in-house roles can offer clearer career growth paths in SEO.
But be ready for the shift:
“In agencies, you’re building towards sales. In-house, you’re building a function.”
Final Thoughts from Eli Schwartz: What Makes a Great SEO Hire?
✅ Communicates clearly, not just correctly
✅ Uses prioritization frameworks like RICE
✅ Thinks in terms of revenue, not just rankings
✅ Collaborates cross-functionally with product, marketing, and design
✅ Shows initiative, ownership, and strategic thinking
Want to Build an SEO Team That Thinks Like This?
Whether you’re an agency scaling your in-house SEO function or need a full-time strategist who can lead like Eli, SEO for Hire has a steady stream of pre-vetted, A-player SEOs ready to join your team.
Book a discovery call and let’s talk about how we can strengthen your SEO hiring strategy.
